gothic culture

My feelings about Elitism and labels in Goth Subculture

Since a while there are plenty of blogs, tweets, fb status, videos about elitism and / or labels in our subculture. I thinked about blogging about for a long time. Is it accurate to add my opinion to the long, long list of opinions already done. 

Finally i can’t resist to the call because i’ve red some wrong things, and i want answer to those points. 

 Many  baby bats are complaining about elitism. The fact it’s often they see in goth subculture only something superficial, fashionable, glamourous fueled by some brands and archetypes. Goth is just wearing black and wear spooky ( but sexy if possible ) things. The reality is a bit different. Yes, many goths love wearing clothes, nice jewelry and make up. It’s in our blood since the begining. But there are goth who really don’t care and they are more goth than many of baby bat i see on social medias. Why ? Because they know the roots of our subculture. It’s not something elitist to say that’s important to know where we come from. Look i’m artist, and during my studies i learned something important, and you can apply it to all domains even goth: you can’t erase the past, the roots, the history because those things make what you are and will be. Knowledge is the key in all domains for going forward. 

For our subculture, it’s important to be linked with music, because our subculture is really music rooted. We are born of music first, late 70s, kids of punk and from the music we build our whole culture adding literature, movies and art. And fashion of course but it’s an epiphenomenom. 

My feelings is, if you want to be really a part of goth subculture, work on and learn. You know as an elder goth i remember when i was a baby bat during the 90s. I see, being a goth bartender helped me, many people in goth parties. Often the more into goth fashion police and bad thongues with others are those who weren’t the less in the subculture. We are not a lot, now, truly goth ( i don’t talk about fashion of course but state of mind ), with social medias i follow time to time some people i met during the 90s and frankly, often i was surprised by what they like, share or talk about. Are they really the 90s uber goth i met ? Yes, often it was just a phase, that’s true. 


Now let’s talk about labels in our subculture. I must admit i’m really fed up by labels because i think if we have the same roots why we need labels ? I hate put people in boxes and i think we’re all the result of mixing influences which emerged with goth subculture. We are just focusing on some different influences according to our personality, education and personnal tates including ungoth ones. 

I don’t care if you are victorian, mopey, pastel or wathever you want. The important thing is if we can discuss gently, not targeting others, just have fun with links builded by being in a same subculture. 

I have this feeling labels become so important. When i was young there were only two labels ” cool people ” and ” douchebags” . There was really enough. 

Vampires movies goth should watch : Part 2 

Hi shadows, 

Last week i’ve posted a list of vampires movies, i think goth should watch. of course it’s not a condition for being goth to my eyes, it’s just a title which sounds nice to my ears. However, here the second part of the list and even non goth could watch its ūüėČ Hope you perhaps discover movies you don’t know in the list. 

1) Interview with the Vampire, Neil Jordan, 1994 


I remember very well when i go to cinema to watch it with friends. I was a baby bat and my friends was involved in roleplaying La Camarilla about vampires. We were very excited and all of us knew the Anne Rice’s book series. It’s one of the few movies in which i can stand Tom Cruise. He is a very good Lestat. Brad pitt is less good as Louis but honorable. If you like historic  costumes movies, sexy vampire relationship and Anne Rice’s book, it’s for you. 

2) Morse, Thomas Alfredson, 2008 


Morse is a vampire movie based on kids but not for kids like The Little Vampire. This swedish movie based on a book depict the special relationship between two kids. It’s a beautiful movie which explore through vampire topic, kid’s torments and how some build a deep connection. 

There was a remake in 2010, but i don’t watch it till now. 

3) Twixt, FF Coppola, 2012 


twist is a part of those very personnal movies Coppola realised. It’s a mix of several inspirztions and topics. It’s also a tribute to edgar Allan Poe universe. For me it’s a real gothic movie and Elle Fanning is brilliant. I just czn tell you : WATCH IT ! 

4) Thirst, Park Chan Wook, 2009 


For once a corean movie. The story is a strange mix between a french realist book, Therese Raquin, and a classic vampire movie. The principal character is a priest, and just for that i wanted watch it, long story, who is infected by a vaccine test. The aesthetic is interesting and the film is more a thriller than a horror movie. 

5) Vampyr, Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1932 


this movie is a beautiful expressionist one. For once it was not after Dracula but after Sheridan Le Fanu Carmilla book. I must admit that i love 20s / 30s movies aesthetic so i enjoyed almost all movies from this era !

6) The Last Man on Earth, Ubaldo Ragona, 1964  


this adapatation of one of my favorite book I Am Legend written by Richard Mattheson is not perfect but much better that the one with Will Smith few years ago. And if your not conviced, watch it for Vincent Price, still perfect. His character live alone and must face night attacks. 

7) Dracula, Tod Browning, 1931 


I don’t know one goth who don’t know who is Bela Lugosi, the best known Dracula actor of the past century. I must confess if i like the movie it’s not my favorite even it’s a classical one. From Browning i prefer so much Freaks. However, you need to watch it, just for your culture and because it has installed long time vampire stereotypical picture. 

8)Vampire’s kiss, Robert Bierman, 1989


I like this movie, which is more a comedy, because it uses a different point of view on what could be to become a Vampire. It was one of the first movies which explore vampire psychology. Nicolas Cage did a great job. 

9) Only Lovers Left Alive, Jim Jarmush, 2013


this film take another point of view on vampires : the disillusioned ones. The movie is mot the best ever on vampires but it’s worth for the actors, Swinton and Hiddleston, and for the still classy Jarmush’s photography.  And Hiddleston, oh i guess i say that before ;)) 

10) The Fearless Vampire Killers, Roman Polanski, 1967 


Another classics but in comedy. This movie is a reinterpretation of Van Helsing, the vampire hunter of Dracula, story.  It’s funny and light. Perfect for halloween with friends for example. 

Next week i will publish the last chapter of my list. Feel free to add in comments movies you like and which are not here nor im the part one.