goth subculture

My feelings about Elitism and labels in Goth Subculture

Since a while there are plenty of blogs, tweets, fb status, videos about elitism and / or labels in our subculture. I thinked about blogging about for a long time. Is it accurate to add my opinion to the long, long list of opinions already done. 

Finally i can’t resist to the call because i’ve red some wrong things, and i want answer to those points. 

 Many  baby bats are complaining about elitism. The fact it’s often they see in goth subculture only something superficial, fashionable, glamourous fueled by some brands and archetypes. Goth is just wearing black and wear spooky ( but sexy if possible ) things. The reality is a bit different. Yes, many goths love wearing clothes, nice jewelry and make up. It’s in our blood since the begining. But there are goth who really don’t care and they are more goth than many of baby bat i see on social medias. Why ? Because they know the roots of our subculture. It’s not something elitist to say that’s important to know where we come from. Look i’m artist, and during my studies i learned something important, and you can apply it to all domains even goth: you can’t erase the past, the roots, the history because those things make what you are and will be. Knowledge is the key in all domains for going forward. 

For our subculture, it’s important to be linked with music, because our subculture is really music rooted. We are born of music first, late 70s, kids of punk and from the music we build our whole culture adding literature, movies and art. And fashion of course but it’s an epiphenomenom. 

My feelings is, if you want to be really a part of goth subculture, work on and learn. You know as an elder goth i remember when i was a baby bat during the 90s. I see, being a goth bartender helped me, many people in goth parties. Often the more into goth fashion police and bad thongues with others are those who weren’t the less in the subculture. We are not a lot, now, truly goth ( i don’t talk about fashion of course but state of mind ), with social medias i follow time to time some people i met during the 90s and frankly, often i was surprised by what they like, share or talk about. Are they really the 90s uber goth i met ? Yes, often it was just a phase, that’s true. 


Now let’s talk about labels in our subculture. I must admit i’m really fed up by labels because i think if we have the same roots why we need labels ? I hate put people in boxes and i think we’re all the result of mixing influences which emerged with goth subculture. We are just focusing on some different influences according to our personality, education and personnal tates including ungoth ones. 

I don’t care if you are victorian, mopey, pastel or wathever you want. The important thing is if we can discuss gently, not targeting others, just have fun with links builded by being in a same subculture. 

I have this feeling labels become so important. When i was young there were only two labels ” cool people ” and ” douchebags” . There was really enough. 

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Music Wednesday #2: riot goth girls 

Sorry for my lack of posts this week, i.ve worked on the paintings for my next groupshow in Belgium this week end. I worked also on commissions. However, i’m back for the music wednesday. 

This will be a only girls playlist, solo or bands. 

1) first is of course the queen of goth Siouxie Sioux. She was and she is a model for so much baby bats around the world. 

2) Diamanda Galas is very impressive. Her way to sing is really amazing, it’s like listening a witch talking with other dimensions. It could be hard to appreciate a first attempt. 

3) Lydia Lunch is a multi tasks artist. She’s writer, poet, singer. I consider her as post punk. She also a true feminist activist. Her texts can be crude and rude. 

4) lene Lovich is one of my favorite. I love her voice and she has a fashion sense which is really my taste mixing folk, punk, goth clothes. She did some featurings with Nina Hagen, but also with Dresden Dolls for example. 

5) if i mention Lene Lovich, i must of course mention Nina Hagen. She impressed me a lot when i was a kid. I remebered forever the first time i saw her in a tv show mid 80s. I just thinked ” wow i want to be her later” 

6) Anna-Varney Cantodea ( Sopor aeternus) is a mystery. Her songs are beautiful and her esthetic too. She is one of the pillar of goth culture. 

7) Dinah Cancer is one of the death rock queen. She was, with her band 45 grave a pioneer. 

8) Gitane DeMone was formerly in Christian Death before being on her solo projects. I love her voice and even without Christian Death her music is good. 

9)Patricia Morrisson was in several bands but especially in Sisters of Mercy and The Damned. She was the bassist before work on solo projects. 

10) Eva O is another ex Christian Death member and was married to Rozz Williams. She has the surname of queen of darkness. 

I will try to update my blog a little bit more often. Feel free to discover more those female singers who made the goth culture.